In religious debates, it's not about what you believe. Once you get into the eternal network, it's not about what you believe. It's about who you know. I have all these discussions with pseudo-religious people and it keeps drifting into what's believable or not or why you believe something but for a solid Christian, none of that really matters. I know the Lord. The beliefs are secondary. So why debate them.
It's not what you believe. It's who you know